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IPX/AppleTalk abatement Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)

 

This document provides answers to the following Frequently Asked Questions:

  1. What's wrong with IPX or AppleTalk?   Why do you want to get rid of it?

  2. How will this affect mac users?

  3. Why have some departments requested that you turn off IPX/AppleTalk routing for their subnets prior to the scheduled abatement date?

  4. When exactly does the axe fall on IPX and AppleTalk routing?

  5. What versions of the server and client OS are required to use and support IP based services?

  6. I'm running an older version of MacOS. Is there a way that I can use IP services?

  7. How do I use IP to connect to a printer or AppleShare server under Classic MacOS (7.6.1 - 9.2.2)?

  8. I have an old printer, and I'm not sure it supports IP.

  9. Can our department continue to use IPX and/or AppleTalk locally?

  10. Our AppleTalk printers and servers are local, but they've disappeared since the abatement.

  11. Can someone help with my migration to IP?

  12. Printing from BAIRS/BFS doesn't seem to work with LPR printers.

  13. I have a more specific question.   Where should I turn?


  1. What's wrong with IPX or AppleTalk?   Why do you want to get rid of it?

    The decision to discontinue support for these protocols was made for a variety of reasons. These are discussed in detail in the article "AppleTalk and IPX: Your days are numbered!" published in the Spring 2001 issue of Berkeley Computing and Communications.


  2. How will this affect mac users?

    AppleTalk zones will no longer appear in the Chooser. You will not be able to browse AppleTalk file sharing and print services on remote subnets. Connecting to computers and printers in remote subnets will require TCP/IP. Detailed instructions for connecting to TCP/IP resources are available in a separate How-To document.


  3. Why have some departments requested that you turn off IPX/AppleTalk routing for their subnets prior to the scheduled abatement date?

    Due to the broadcast traffic generated by and associated with these protocols, network performance is adversely affected at several levels, including the local subnet. Numerous departments which never needed or no longer require AppleTalk or IPX support for their printers or servers have requested that we discontinue routing these protocols to their subnets prior to the September 30th cutoff so that they may avoid superfluous broadcast traffic as soon as possible. Local (IP based) traffic can move more quickly and freely if it need not compete with AppleTalk and IPX broadcasts for valuable bandwith and network resources.


  4. When exactly does the axe fall on IPX and AppleTalk routing?

    Changing the configuration of numerous routing devices across campus is a daunting task, and will not occur all at once.
    IPX and AppleTalk will no longer be supported after 12:01am on Tuesday, 01 October 2002, and is subject to being turned off at any time after that. We will attempt to notify departmental administrators prior to the making changes that will affect their networks. (In some cases, where networks span multiple departments, we will attempt to notify administrators throughout the affected building). In addition, we will make announcements on the Micronet and MAGNet mailing lists, as well as the ucb-net-announce@UCLink list, the latter of which is reflected to the USENET group ucb.net.announce. Keep an eye on these lists for more information.

    To subscribe to the ucb-net-announce@uclink mailing list, send an e-mail message addressed to: majordomo@listlink.berkeley.edu that contains this single line in the body of the mail message:
        subscribe ucb-net-announce


  5. What versions of the server and client OS are required to use and support IP based services?

    For Novell, version 4.0 is required, but 5.x is recommended.
    AppleShare Server versions 5 and later support IP.
    Macintosh clients should be running MacOS 8.6 or later


  6. I'm running an older version of MacOS. Is there a way that I can use IP services?

    With MacOS 7.6.1 - 8.5.1, it's still possible to connect to IP resources, but you will have to download newer drivers and client software. Please see the How-To document for more details.


  7. How do I use IP to connect to a printer or AppleShare server under Classic MacOS (7.6.1 - 9.2.2)?

    Check out the step-by-step procedures for connecting to an LPR printer, and for connecting to a server via TCP/IP.


  8. I have an old printer, and I'm not sure it supports IP.

    Check your user manual or contact the printer manufacturer to verify whether or not your printer is capable of IP networking. If it is not, you may consider directly attaching it to an existing IP server and allow that machine to share the printer. A simpler alternative may be just to replace the aging printer with one that is IP capable.


  9. Can our department continue to use IPX and/or AppleTalk locally?

    If your departmental server(s) and client machines are all on a single subnet, then AppleTalk/IPX routing is not necessary for the services on your machines. AppleTalk/IPX functionality will continue to work within any given subnet even after CNS disables the forwarding of these protocols across the campus network. However, even in this case, configuring your clients and server to use IP may increase your local performance somewhat as your subnet will no longer be subjected to as much broadcast traffic.


  10. Our AppleTalk printers and servers are local, but they've disappeared since the abatement.

    Your servers and printers were formally members of an AppleTalk zone. These zones are defined and propogated by campus routers. With the abatement, these zones no longer exist, and thus, your former printer and server connections, which were made with reference to AppleTalk zones, are no longer valid. While the AppleTalk zones will no longer appear in the Chooser, your local printers and servers should. Simply reselect the resources you desire.


  11. Can someone help with my migration to IP?

    Such migrations may not be entirely painless. However, it's important to note that versions of Netware and AppleShare file-sharing software which cannot use IP at all are extremely old. Chances are, most departments are already running software that can use IP as its network protocol. In addition, there are numerous vendor resources that can assist with migration.

    Finally, IST and other organizations provide some resources that may help with the migration. Subscription services, like Department On-Site Computing Support (DOCS, http://docs.berkeley.edu) and Letters & Science Computing Resources (LSCR, http:ls.berkeley.edu/lscr/) can assist their customers with migration issues. IST's Workstation Software Support Group (WSSG, http://wssg.berkeley.edu/) may also be able to provide help and technical information.


  12. Printing from BAIRS/BFS doesn't seem to work with LPR printers.

    When attempting to print to the late model HP LaserJet series printers, (4000 and 4100, among others) some users report that printing using the Citrix client fails silently, although they can print from other applications using the LPR printer setup.
    Download the latest Citrix client and follow the installation and configuration instructions graciously provided by Departmental On-site Computer Support.


  13. I have a more specific question.   Where should I turn?

    If you have additional questions, need more detailed information, or have concerns about this abatement project, you can send mail to ipx-appletalk-abatement@ack.berkeley.edu.

 

 


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